Clip 8: Moment 2b
Catherine:
Jack, from what you just said about not always doing learning intentions, and then from a couple of things you've said in workshops and even the last observation, I sense that there’s something about this professional learning that you’re not engaging in, or there might be even some resistance to it. I'd just like to check that out with you.
Jack:
Yeah, sure.
Catherine:
So, how are you feeling about it?
Jack:
Well, I'm not engaged either.
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Michael:
Just stop it there for the moment, because that sounded, as Michael, that sounded absolutely fine.
Catherine:
Did it?
Michael:
Yeah.
Catherine:
And I'd have to say once I said it, I felt good. So it’s once you get it out, you actually feel better about it. And then you've got a way forward to talk that through.
Michael:
And as Jack, what I was thinking there is, “That’s a perfectly reasonable thing for her to say. She’s saying things that in fact, it’s quite right – that’s how I've been feeling about it. And she’s saying it in a way that makes me feel comfortable about talking about it. And maybe I'm actually looking forward to having this conversation about it now, now that she has made me sit down.” So that you voice that, you're feeling comfortable about it – you could say it with Jack if you wanted to. Do you want to say it to Jack? Do you want to try that now?
Catherine:
Yeah, I think I’ll have a go with Jack. Are you all right?
Allan:
Yep.
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Catherine:
So, Jack, after you said that about not always doing learning intentions, it was another little hint to me that you're actually not really finding this professional development useful, or you are even a little bit resistant to it. And I've noticed a couple of other times I’ve been with you and a couple of similar things have happened. And I really want this to work for both of us, and so I'm just thinking, now what is it about it that you're finding tricky? Or are you being resistant? Am I right?
Jack:
Yeah. Yep, I'm pretty reluctant about it all. “Resistant”, yeah, resistant’s a good word ... why?
Catherine:
Yeah.
Jack:
I guess I just don't see the point of it in writing. I feel like I do a good job in writing. I feel like I’m moving the kids forward. I feel like I have the expertise to help them move forward. It just seems like a waste of time if I'm putting learning intentions into everything and success criteria.
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Michael:
You've got him sitting down. You've got him talking about the ... his previous disengagement, so you've surfaced that. You've surfaced what's in your head, you've surfaced what’s in his head, and you're actually talking about it. You've solved that problem. Now you're on to the next one perhaps. But there are other things, there may have been other things in that whole conversation – that initial conversation that you had with Jack – that were more deeply problematic.
