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WÄhanga 6 – Me aha a Leeana?
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Clip 6 – W hat should Leeana do?
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Ripeka
E ai ki ngÄ koroua, ngÄ kuia o mua, ko te kai a te rangatira ko te kÅrero. E riro te tuku pea i te kÅrero kÄtahi ka kite atu ngÄ Ähuatanga e rua nei. Heoi anÅ, kei raro tonu pea i te maru kotahi. MÄ te kÅrero pea kÄtahi ka Äta puta mai me pÄ“hea rÄ te mahi i tÄ“nei mahi, me pÄ“hea rÄ â€¦ , kei hea rÄ te mea tika mÅ tÄ“nei nÄ, mÄ te kÅrero pea tÄ“rÄ kÄ puta mai.
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Ripeka
According to our koroua and kuia, discussion was the food of chiefs. It was through discussion that these two aspects were apparent. However, it came under the one mantle. Through discussion, it was apparent how this should be done, what is the correct way or process – through talking that would come out.
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Heeni
KoinÄ kei te noho koe ki te hoatu tautoko, ki te hoatu manaakitanga, ki te hoatu huarahi hei awhi i tÅ hoa kia tika ai tana haere. I tipu mai au pÄ“rÄ, i tipu mai tÄtou katoa pÄ“rÄ. PÄ“nÄ kei te hÄ“ tÅ mahi, ka whakatikahia koe e tÅ koroua, kuia.
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Heeni
You are there to support, to care for, to offer pathways to help your friend get on the right track. I grew up like that; we all grew up like that. If you did something wrong, you were corrected by your koroua [grandfather] or your kuia [grandmother].
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Me kÅrero te tangata he aha kei roto i tana … tana hinengaro. Kaua e pupuri nÄ te mea ko koe ka raru, koinÄ anake aku kÅrero. KÄore au i te titiro i tÄ“nei … i tÄ“nei … wÄ ki te tuakana-teina Ähuatanga nÄ te mea ki a au nei karekau tÄ“nei i te tuakana-teina … take. TÄ“nei he … he whakahoahoa, he whakawhanaungatanga, he whaka … he awhi tÄ“tahi i tÄ“tahi, he kÅrero pono tÄ“tahi ki tÄ“tahi.
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The person should say what’s on their mind. Don’t hold on to it because you’re the one who will have difficulty, that’s all I have to say. I’m not looking at this in the context of an elder-junior relationship because I don’t believe it’s an elder-junior issue. This is friendship, relationship, family – helping one another, being truthful to each other.
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Leeana
Ko tÄ“tahi mea kua ako au pea ki te kore e mahi, ka ngaro pea tÄ“tahi Ähuatanga. NÅ reira kaua e waiho kia tÄrewa, me tutuki pea i tÅna wÄ, mÄ te wÄ pea. Engari me tutuki – kaua e waiho kia tÄrewa.
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Leeana
Another thing that I have learned is if you don’t address the issue, aspects will be lost. Therefore don’t leave an issue hanging, complete it at the time, or at an appropriate time. But deal with it – don’t leave it unsettled.
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Sarah-Jane
Ki te kore e tÅ«, Ä, ki te kÅrero, ki te kore e whakawhiti whakaaro me tÅ tuakana, i te taha o tÅ tuakana, Äe, ka ngaro ngÄ pÅ«kenga, ka ngaro wÄ“tahi atu, ko wÄ“rÄ momo mea mÅ ngÄ tamariki.
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Sarah-Jane
If you don’t stand, and speak, if you don’t discuss the ideas with your tuakana [older person], alongside your tuakana, yes, skills will be lost and other things will be lost, those things for our children.
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Wini
Ka ngaro te ia o te kaupapa mÄ“nÄ kÄore te tangata e whakaputa kÅrero. KÄore te tangata e mÅhio me pÄ“hea ia mÄ“nÄ kÄore tÄ“tahi e whakaputa te kÅrero. NÅ reira, ahakoa he Äwangawanga te kÅrero ki te pakeke, me kÅrero. Ko tÄ“rÄ te mea tika, te mea pono, kia pai ake ai te tangata e whakaako ana i mua o ngÄ kaiako. NÅ reira kia kaha ki te kimi i te huarahi.
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Wini
The point of the issue is lost if the person doesn’t discuss it. The person won’t know what to do unless someone tells them. So although it can be awkward talking to elders, you should speak up. That’s the most important thing, the honest thing to do, in order to improve the way in which a person teaches the teachers. So be strong and find a way.
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Heeni
Me whakareri te tangata i ai ia mÅ tÄ“rÄ kÅrero. Kaua e haere pararu atu ki roto i taua kÅrero. It’s an important time and you show its importance when you’re prepared.
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Heeni
The person should prepare themselves for that discussion. Don’t go unprepared into the discussion. It’s an important time and you show its importance when you’re prepared.
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Ripeka
Ko te mea kÄ“, kaua mÄu te huarahi e kimi, mÄ tÄ“nei te huarahi e kimi - mÄ kÅrua te huarahi e kimi. Koira kÄ“ pea te rekekÄ“tanga me whai kÅrua, kia puta mai ai kÅrua ki te ao mÄrama. Ä€, kia taea ai kÅrua te tutuki i tÄ“nÄ ao i runga anÅ i Ä kÅrua tikanga, i Ä kÅrua mana ake kia kore ai kÅrua e wehe haere i runga i tÄ“nÄ huarahi e whÄia haere rÄ kÅrua.
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Ripeka
The important point to be made here is that it’s not for you only to find a solution, but for both of you to find the solution. That perhaps is the difference – working collaboratively, you two will understand. Both of you will be able to achieve in that world while holding on to your own values and your integrity, so that you won’t be dissuaded from the path you are pursuing.
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