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Wāhanga 8 – Te mau tonu ki te mana
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Clip 8 – Maintaining mana
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Ripeka
Nā te mea he Māori rā koe, i whakapakeke mai koe i te ao Māori, anei ōu tikanga. Kātahi anō ka puta mai, mehemea kei te tū koe i te marae te whaka … te kōrero hard, hard talk ki runga i te marae, puta tonu mai te reo.
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Ripeka
Because you are Māori, and you grew up in the Māori world, here are your beliefs. This is apparent when you stand on the marae and talk the hard talk; the words are spoken, no matter what.
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Wini
Me mōhio, he aha te wā me whakaputa kōrero - he āhuatanga o te kauhautūtanga nē. I roto i tēnā, mēnā kāore koe i kōrero, kāore he take o tērā whakaaro mēnā kāore i puta mai. Nō reira i runga i te kaihautūtanga ka taea te kī, “Anei ngā kōrero – me pēhea mātou e whakatika, e whakatakoto rānei?”
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Wini
We should know when to speak – that is a leadership quality. As a leader, if you don’t say what you think, then it’s pointless having those thoughts, if you’re not going to express them. Through leadership, it’s possible to say, “This is what needs to be said – now how do we make it right or settle it?”
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Ripeka
Karekau ki a au he rerekētanga - te tū ki runga i te marae, whakatika, ki runga i tēnei nā te whakatika. Ko te mea kē, i te mutunga iho, kei te hiahia rā koe kia puta mai tātou katoa, kia tae tātou katoa ki te … ki te ekeeketanga, ahakoa te aha. Ka taea e tātou katoa ki reira rā.
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Ripeka
In my opinion, there’s no difference between standing on the marae to correct others, and the way in which we correct others in this job. The important point, at the end of the day, is that you want all of us to achieve and improve, no matter what. We can do it.
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Dee
You know if the hard talking needs to be done, as long as you show kindness, atawhai, or manaki tangata, aroha ki tētahi ki tētahi [show kindness, care for the person and show love and compassion to one another] I think that can make it quite safe. Because if I, I’m comfortable enough with them and I trust them, and they trust me, and if that relationship is actually truly moving towards that whakapono [belief/faith] stage of Tame’s and my schema, then I would quite safely do the hard talking or have the hard talking done to me. I think it’s imperative actually, because that’s the, that’s the sort of kick start into reflection sometimes, is when something’s brought to your attention in a very direct manner. I think it speeds up the process.
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Leeana
He tino pūkenga tonu ēnei, he pūkenga tāngata, me kī. Mōku ake, kei te ako tonu au, me pēhea te whakaputa whakaaro. I wētahi wā kāore e pīrangi te tangata te rongo, i wētahi wā he mārō, me kī, he uaua. Me pēhea anō i runga anō i wērā mātāpono, uara rānei o te aroha? Engari me huri ngā whakaaro kia eke, kia neke ā tātou tamariki. Koinā te tino mahi, me kī, te ngako o ā tātou mahi.
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Leeana
These are important skills, these people skills. For me, I am still learning how I should express my thoughts. Sometimes the person wants to listen, and sometimes they’re stubborn and won’t listen. How does one do the hard talk based on those principles or values of love? But we should concentrate on what we want to achieve in order to move our children forward.
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Sarah-Jane
But to always have at the back of your mind the reason why you are doing this. And what is that reason? It’s for the benefit kia eke ngā tamariki ki te taumata [so the children can reach their full potential]. And if you don’t follow it up, then who, who are the ones that are missing out? And it is our tamariki mokupuna. So I think it’s all of us will be different in how we approach it, but I guess the rationale for why we do it is the same.
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